Nov 3, 2020
The episode begins by framing some language around stages of spiritual development. Co-hosts take a trip down memory lane as they dig up developmental language from their former faith communities and from broader American culture. The conversation continues with the inclusion of helpful models as well as critiques of developmental theory. While discussing spiral dynamics and various approaches to understanding development, co-hosts agree - no approach to human or spiritual development is universal.
The conversation turns to the ways we internalize shame in relation to our interpretation of the progress we are making toward some idealized goal. Allen brings in Sam Keen’s model of growth stages outlined in his book The Passionate Life. This leads to further insights on levels of consciousness, moving forward and backward, existential crisis, individual versus communal movement and how it all may be related to an acceptance of finitude.
In the final stage of this episode, co-hosts play a lively game of Classy and Trashy. Because, you know, that’s how we shake our booties. (It will make sense if you listen to the end.)
Conversation on (00:00:50)
Segment (01:03:43)
RELEVANT LINKS
From Our Conversation on Stages of Spiritual Development
- 1 Corinthians 3:2 NRSV (Meat & Milk Passage)
- Spiral Dynamics
- Eugenics
- Enneagram
- Charles Hartshorne (American Philosopher)
- Erik Homburger Erikson (German-American Developmental Psychologist and Psychoanalyst)
- St John of the Cross
- St Teresa of Avila
- The Passionate Life: Stages of Loving by Sam Keen (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
- Before a fatal shooting, teenage Kenosha suspect idolized the police (Article)
- Bundy Stand Off
- On the Mystery: Discerning Divinity In Process by Catherine Keller (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
- The Death of the Mythic God: The Rise of Evolutionary Spirituality by Jim Marion (Book - Amazon Affiliate Link)
- Kenneth Earl Wilber II (American Philosopher)
- Robert Kegan (American Developmental Psychologist, Author, and Consultant)
From Our Classy or Trashy Segment
- Austin Channing Brown (Author)
- Author Austin Channing Brown – I’m Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness – 118 (Irenicast Episode)
- U2 (Band)
- Coldplay (Band)
- Mumford and Sons (Band)
- Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988 Film)
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